Why Honda's leaving F1 and what it means for Verstappen

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Honda will withdraw from Formula 1 at the end of the 2021 season, leaving Red Bull without an engine partner and putting the team’s rivals on full alert regarding its lead driver Max Verstappen. But why now? And what will the consequences be? Scott Mitchell explains the full seismic story in this video - let us know your thoughts on what the next steps for Red Bull and Verstappen should be in the comments below.

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  • I hope another american comapny gets interested in f1

    Ozzy OzOzzy Oz9 घंटे पहले
  • Honda's F1 engine sounds great

    Alvin LinardiAlvin Linardi9 घंटे पहले
  • An unlikely but not impossible option could be if Red Bull manage to buy the IP rights for the current engine off of Honda, they could potentially approach Cosworth with it to prop up and continue the power unit's development. Cosworth hasn't been in F1 for a long time, but they do have recent experience in making small capacity high power engines, as well as hybrid powertrains. Cosworth has said that they weren't previously interested in returning to F1 as an engine supplier because of the high costs of developing an engine, but if they're presented with one almost "ready made" for themselves, perhaps that could help sway them?

    CorusCreativeCorusCreative15 घंटे पहले
  • Such a shame that Honda is pulling out just when they were beginning to really refine and perfect their engine after years of hardship. An understandable switch though and hopefully Honda shows up as a Formula E team in the future?

    Kazuki NakashimaKazuki Nakashima16 घंटे पहले
  • For a driver who can only do 3rd best in all races, he's got a big mouth. He's never had an F1 championship. He has no right to be so rude to his fellow F1 drivers

    Edipolo AggaraoEdipolo Aggarao18 घंटे पहले
  • Honda? Some five weeks ago I ordered some Honda spare parts with the Honda Dealer who for my surprise did not had them on stock. Later I learned that not even Honda was able to deliver them. My vehicle Honda Activa is a current Model with only 5 years since purchase. Bad quality and very bad service. R.I.P. Honda and shame on you and your management.

    Felix NiederhauserFelix Niederhauserदिन पहले
  • Imagine they get the Porsche engine that was being worked on for the 2021 season. That would be crazy

    Ham SandwhichHam Sandwhichदिन पहले
  • So does anyone know what engine red bull will use next year?

    Adam BeardAdam Beardदिन पहले
  • I love how the title says “Verstappen” instead of “Red Bull”

    Kara NguyenKara Nguyen2 दिन पहले
  • verstappen should be in a merc making Lewis shit himself

    The DeviousOrangeThe DeviousOrange2 दिन पहले
  • No Honda no don’t go

    AtlasHonda PakistanAtlasHonda Pakistan2 दिन पहले
  • Max's present clearly is not what everyone was expecting. Since 2015 everyone was saying that "he was going to be multi world champion" from "next season on" but he is finishing his 6th season without actually being a title contender. This is the main reason why Honda is leaving. They don't see that Max has chances to be champion soon. Just to give you an example, Max has 9 wins in 6 seasons, Ronnie Peterson won 10 races in 6 seasons before his fatal accident so Max is not doing anything special or relevant. He has a fast car and drives it relatively well but has commited more significant errors than any other driver in the history of F1, including repeated accidents on his own, with everyone on the grid including his team mates. Just to give you a strong example, in 6 seasons Max has never finished a race in Monaco, Japan or Baku without crashing. His future is at risk because of the lack of relevant results.

    Rotor Air GroupRotor Air Group7 दिन पहले
  • That’s such a shame. The Honda guys looked so happy when they first joined with Red Bull and they started winnings races. I can imagine a lot of Honda employees are gutted by this decision.

    Matthew KeffordMatthew Kefford13 दिन पहले
  • So why wouldn't Aston Martin stick a block in? Wouldn't that make sense since its got a badge on it? Lol

    migwheelsmigwheels14 दिन पहले
  • Up until the 90s F1 was a savage sport. Open cockpit, manual transmissions, crazy engines screaming... and the technology was eventually relevant to road going cars. Now everybody knows hybrid engines are just a bridge to full electric. Maybe there will be Fuel cell hybrid electric engines but the ICE is dead. Spending this kind of money on F1 is one big waste of money. They should just give up on trying to be relevant to road going cars and embrace the entertainment factor.

    kevin nkevin n15 दिन पहले
  • shame honda are going they should've supplied Hass,

    Isaac TimminsIsaac Timmins19 दिन पहले
  • Love the vid and the comments, learned a lot!

    Nic De SmedtNic De Smedt22 दिन पहले
  • Without racing there is no honda

    david mcquoiddavid mcquoid23 दिन पहले
  • F1 Is coming to an end. Mercedes ruined Formula 1, a compliment to how supreme they are. FIA has to come up with new regulations or more teams will start pulling out.

    undying1337undying133723 दिन पहले
  • who cares .....

    Chris GardinerChris Gardiner24 दिन पहले
  • It shouldn’t mean anything for Vestappen he’s just another driver.

    samuel kletzsamuel kletz25 दिन पहले
  • A car manufacturer leaves F1. A producer of harmful energy drinks cries... and F1 wakes up with 7 rich kids racing "Among Us". End of F1.

    Furlock FurliFurlock Furli27 दिन पहले
  • Screw redbull, without verstappen they would be nowhere near where they are now. Great racer, I hope he signs a better deal after the 2021 season.

    Be.RandomBe.Random28 दिन पहले
  • I'm a red bull fan so I'm pretty pooped

    Andrew IwasyszynAndrew Iwasyszynमहीने पहले
  • Even though they may not be killing off the program as a result of the coof... It still counts as a rona related death.

    C. FecteauC. Fecteauमहीने पहले
  • Honda wants to be more involved in energy/carbon efficient technologies it seems. How about being sensitive to the impact of heavy metals (batteries) on the environment? Yes? No? Maybe? The most energy and environmentally friendy transportation methods are sail boats and bicycles! It's always has been tough to use wind powered transportation on land, so I wonder when we'll see a Honda bicycle in the Tour de France??? ;-)

    Buddy BBuddy Bमहीने पहले
  • I like how everyone acknowledges that red bull only has one driver

    SyndiCate GamingSyndiCate Gamingमहीने पहले
  • Technically nothing will happen to him . Everyone will want him . His the second best on the grid in my opinion

  • FormulaE will replace F1 without huge rules change

    Gilles de BrouwerGilles de Brouwerमहीने पहले
  • I hope they'll be back. Hope they stay in IndyCar too, or even break out into Formula E. Honda has too much racing potential that shouldn't go to waste.

    [KPG][KPG]महीने पहले
  • I’d love to see Aston Martin supply their engines

    James BannisterJames Bannisterमहीने पहले
  • Dont come back honda. You will just shoot your foot again and screw up another champion caliber team. Never again.

    Ryan DalzielRyan Dalzielमहीने पहले
  • So what now, will honda step out from motogp too? Come on.....

    RendevoaRendevoaमहीने पहले
  • When does F1 go electric?

    Murray TaylorMurray Taylorमहीने पहले
  • Winning? Oh the ignore Mercedes One and two rule.

    Andrew HoughtonAndrew Houghtonमहीने पहले
  • If they had any sense they would dump that loony toon Hamilton and sign Verstappen

    pablo ragespablo ragesमहीने पहले
    • Lol he only won them 7 double championships. Just stop hating

      Guilherme AlmeidaGuilherme Almeidaमहीने पहले
  • asdwegfwes.... anyways formula video + listening to the music I like (Delta Parole, Metallica and other) make me feel the speed and excitement!

    formulafanformulafanमहीने पहले
  • I would like Mercedes to supply the engines because that means they will compete only in the technology side instead of the engine side and I think this will make F1 even more exciting.

    Philip NgPhilip Ngमहीने पहले
  • F1 needs a formula to attract multiple powertrain types. How about limit power output and allow any propulsion system and weight?

    Splendid TruthSplendid Truthमहीने पहले
  • I think Honda are leaving F1 as the return on investment is simply too poor, especially as they aren’t winning races. So you can say they are pulling out because they aren’t winning and are using the 'green' technology investment as an excuse. The technology in F1 is crazily expensive and complex and for a while it was relevant to manufacturers who were developing hybrid technology for their road cars. Now the move is to fully electric road cars, whether battery or hydrogen fuel cell or whatever the boffins can come up with, and that means the F1 technology is fast becoming irrelevant to road car manufacturers. I don’t really see where F1 is going to go in the future since the fully electric route is already covered by Formula E, and maybe that is a factor in Honda's decision. I think F1 will become very unattractive to manufacturers in the future and that’s a big concern for the future of the sport. I hope the new owners and the likes of Ross Brawn can find some answers otherwise F1 will be unable to attract the massive investment from car makers and sponsors that keeps it going at present.

    cokeandtwirlcokeandtwirlमहीने पहले
  • Why would you stay in a discipline that died 25 years ago which is a monotype discipline who runs on Parking including ex real historical circuits turned into parking ( Monaco, Suzuka, Spa), with Duracell mono-turbo who provide the same excitement as an anorexic mannequin selected by a couturier who does not like women ? Formula Fa**ot cost too much for what it is , a monotype Formula Parking with Duracell monoturbo whos sound provide no pleasure to a real motorsport fan but is to much expensive and as the same time is not enough green for an eugenist pseudo ecologist extremist . And since it runs on huge parking lot, since reliability has been impose with these rules of 1 Duracell for 4538 races, since anti stall system and limousine type cars provide little chance to do a mistake and end up in a DNF, unpredictability have been almost totally wiped out. Never in the history of F1 ( if we dare calling that Formula Fa**ot F1) the difference between competitor has been so small, but on the contrary, it has never been so much boring. Cause it is predicable. That's why the cycle of dominance are so long, with Ferrari and then Red Bull and now Mercedes. Eddie Irvine said last year : he said that he knew F1 was dead when he saw all this ultra flat standardised kerbs being installed on each track. Too bad that during 25 years, only Jacques Villeneuve, Juan Pablo Montoya and Jean Alesi have opened their mouth to condemn the trend. Now, you have a totally sanitized product which produce no pleasure, who has totally reduced the impact of the driver to peanut ( just check the gap between drivers) , with no diversity in track, in cars, in engines, with even backmarkers management has been standardized. Therefore, Honda has no interest to stay . Only Mercedes had interest and even them, they shall retire cause it is not worthing to stay if you are number 2 and sooner or later, their cycle will end It's not by accident that they are so little constructors involved, so little sponsor, so little public, so little talking among colleagues , students , family members about "F1" It is dead or at max, it is under life support.... for how long ?

    GTAGISGTAGISमहीने पहले
  • sucked in redbull

    Dale BranchDale Branchमहीने पहले
  • Eh... When the podium is almost always the same three drivers, the sport already has a major problem. This makes it worse, no doubt. But, really, tuning in every week to watch Hamilton, Verstappen, and Bottas drive away from everybody else is pretty boring. Heck, if there was only one manufacturer and everybody had to drive identical engines maybe it would be more competitive and more interesting?

    Adrian ChoAdrian Choमहीने पहले
    • @Sputnikcosmonot Fair enough! I'm no huge race fan, but I like them both. And the Indy 500 is clearly a different beast--passing at full speed. To be honest, on a road course, I'd rather watch motorcycles. Just plain crazy and there's never a question of not enough room to pass.

      Adrian ChoAdrian Cho22 दिन पहले
    • that already exists, and it's called indycar. Pretty good tbf

      SputnikcosmonotSputnikcosmonot25 दिन पहले
  • I think Honda needs to stop with all the ECO shit. 😂 We get it Honda you make boring cars now

    FBIFBIमहीने पहले
  • whelp volkswagen actually killed f1

    gzkggzkgमहीने पहले
  • F1 is an ever increasing bowl of crap. Don't blame Honda. I'm about done with it too.

    Formula 1 Fan ColoradoFormula 1 Fan Coloradoमहीने पहले
  • Personally, I’ll walk, or stay home, before I drive an electric car. Good riddance Honda. And p.s. I won’t watch e-racing.

    Cobra RacerCobra Racerमहीने पहले
    • @Cobra RacerWhile giving the middle finger to mother nature. Just like me then. Not too fond of electric cars myself. :-) But electric cars seem to be the future sadly.

      _SilverArrow_xxx_SilverArrow_xxxमहीने पहले
    • @_SilverArrow_xxx , I’m old school. I race a 740hp, 427 Cobra, and very much enjoy the deep throaty growl and smell of hi-octane. Electric cars just sound...un-manly.

      Cobra RacerCobra Racerमहीने पहले
    • Why ?

      _SilverArrow_xxx_SilverArrow_xxxमहीने पहले
  • Honda is like a bad stock trader. Always selling on the dips

    David CooperDavid Cooperमहीने पहले
  • Good thing for Hamilton

  • Honda is going woke. Get Woke, Go Broke.

    Alita Tuner TCAlita Tuner TCमहीने पहले
  • Because is sick of people like Alonso and Verstappen who only think about themelves and winning through them no with them.

    AlejandroAlejandroमहीने पहले
  • What's Lotus up to these days?

    Jeff ThurstonJeff Thurstonमहीने पहले
  • I felt Max was destined to move to Ferrari next but their cars this season have been absolute dog shit. That’s the real story of 2020: Ferrari falling off the map.

    Uzoma Obi, EsquireUzoma Obi, Esquireमहीने पहले
  • If Aston Martin are bringing a team why don't they supply engines or is Aston Martin not going to do that?

    greg magrathgreg magrathमहीने पहले
    • They are going to be a works team so they will supply engines. That's what I think redbull are gonna do as they also already have ties with aston Martin through sponsorship

      Sean BSean Bमहीने पहले
  • The hybrid engine formula ruined F1. Took all the excitement and competition out of the sport.

    Peter Southern BoyPeter Southern Boyमहीने पहले
  • After how many times Horner and Marko belittled -or downright insulted - Renault, which gave them four F1 titles, it would be awesome to see them back with a Renault engine, particularly if the French treat them as the very last team to supply, with zero support to be competitive.

    Fairlight CMIFairlight CMIमहीने पहले
  • I think they have realized that F1 adds no value to this world in any case. There is nothing ""sporting"" about it.

    landwarrior82landwarrior82महीने पहले
  • i think lotus can come for red bull

    morne 69morne 69महीने पहले
  • I'm willing to lend RedBull my 1961 Rambler Classic's V6 engine for 2021. Gets great gas mileage. Go AMC!

    Billie Bobbie NortonBillie Bobbie Nortonमहीने पहले
  • Why don’t they build their own engine ? They have the money. Just buy Honda’s engine patents and keep developing it, how hard can it be ?

    Le Bagn ardLe Bagn ardमहीने पहले
    • how about the human resource?

      Yansen HaryantoYansen Haryantoमहीने पहले
  • Honda is correct in focusing on E Cars..in California, a Law was recently passed in which all new cars sold in the State will have to be electric in 2035. New gas driven cars sold in the State will be banned...other States will surely follow California’s ban effective in 15 years. F1 will become economically unsustainable due to the high costs and resources for its motors as manufacturers face a new chapter in racing...making engines more complicated will only seal its death fate going forward...tech learned from F1 racing is resulting in diminishing returns for engine manufacturing..the passion for racing is still governed by economics and not the heart.

  • Hopefully Ford motors will re enter F1...they won 10 constructors title from 1967 to 2004 with 67 teams.

  • Red bull-Lamborghini 🐃 ... one can only dream.

    Heury ReyesHeury Reyesमहीने पहले
  • This probably won’t happen but why not Toyota or BMW come back? Or maybe Lexus since I’ve heard rumours years back of them wanting to increase their racing presence.

    JJ163JJ163महीने पहले
    • from old fashioned carbon fuel based technology to something that is future proof.

      soiung toiuesoiung toiueमहीने पहले
  • A slow start, and finally a top grade engine... This is rotten news for F1.

    Jennifer WhiteWolfJennifer WhiteWolfमहीने पहले
    • then machining them into modern race parts. Believe it or not, that's actually greener for the planet than what we're doing.

      soiung toiuesoiung toiueमहीने पहले
  • Bring back v12. This hybrid shit is not working out for you obviously F1. Save the EV hybrids to their own class of racing

    Majed AghaMajed Aghaमहीने पहले
  • do their f1 cars have V-tec?

    SjefeNoverSjefSjefeNoverSjefमहीने पहले
  • No suprise there , they were blowing up to many engines when they were with McLaren , not surprising atoll when you think how many of Honda engines were blown up under Mclaren

    Alan MiellAlan Miellमहीने पहले
  • So what about Honda in Indycar and Acura in IMSA...

    Pyro GamingPyro Gamingमहीने पहले
  • Some American motor company should jump in

    VETTEVETTEमहीने पहले
  • They're going into formal-e. Thats the future of racing.

    RoRoमहीने पहले
    • Drop this hybrid shit, go back to petrol engines. Often the formula to any stock block.

      soiung toiuesoiung toiueमहीने पहले
  • That's result after RB ruined Ferrari down below their level because Ferrari take advantage from fuel flowing

    TineFangamingTineFangamingमहीने पहले
    • They should stick to drink manufacturing!

      soiung toiuesoiung toiueमहीने पहले
  • Honda out!! DAF in!! DAf is a dutch car manufacturer which has given their patents secrets to all car manufacturers. They will start talks with Saab and the problem is solved. Saab will supply their Turbo knowledge and DAF their variomatic transmission. The company forward will be financed by Heineken. Holleeder has reveiled where the hidden kidnap money is (35 miljoen guilders) to guarantee Verstappen's salary. Game over for Mercedes and Ferrari!!!

    Rein BosRein Bosमहीने पहले
    • Get Shell onboard supplying fuel &lube and V.O.C. for some Eat Indies hash.

      Iwant AnaivanovicIwant Anaivanovicमहीने पहले
  • Cyril changing from "Squirrel Irritable" to "Cyril Inevitable" :D

    soiung toiuesoiung toiueमहीने पहले
  • This could be an opportunity for Audi/VW to develop an engine for 2022. That would be great!

    Tony WalkerTony Walkerमहीने पहले
  • Europeans only buy cars from Europe. F1 is primarily watched in Europe. Why throw good money at a bad market?

    MadOneMadOneमहीने पहले
  • Why stay in a sport that’s a one trick pony?

    Max TMax Tमहीने पहले
    • continue !

      soiung toiuesoiung toiueमहीने पहले
  • Mclaren is getting a Merc engine??

    Niño GagasaNiño Gagasaमहीने पहले
  • If I was running Formula One I'd let go of the mantra which says "the best technology, the best team structures, the best manufacturing - with no cost limit." It's like a bidding city getting the Olympics nowadays. The Olympics have become so expensive you don't "win" the right to host an Olympics you actually become a "loser" when you win that right. The current hybrid engine formula was always a terrible idea because it whittled down the potential engine manufacturers to a tiny handful who could afford a billion dollar engine program for very little return. But on top of that, the supporting technology on the current F1 cars is also so "over the top" we have fewer cars on the grid than at any time in the history of the World Championship since 1950. Clearly it all adds up to an unsustainable business model. You might disagree with what I'm about to write, and that's cool, but this is what I would do. First, an explanation. The reason WHY I've reached my conclusions is to save the category from itself. Formula One still does many things right, and it remains a grand spectacle in some respects. So what I would do is I would mandate every team has to use a mass production road engine "short block" from 1980 or earlier. Minimum sales units 100,000. No exceptions, even for Ferrari. The teams would be allowed to build their own heads and crankshafts, but the block would have to be an original road engine. Each team would then have to "make that engine fit". If that means an old school engine cradle, so be it. In an instant you'd see all the teams scratching their heads as to what the ideal engine would be. A V12, a V6, or perhaps a V8? Sure, I would implement a maximum "fuel flow rate" but that 's it. If someone want's to use a 7 litre MOPAR Hemi, go nuts. If someone want's to turbo a 1.5 litre 4 cylinder, again, go nuts. The fuel flow rate limit would ensure a level playing field. And then we'd see all the old school expertise coming back - expertise which is now in the rarified hands of billion dollar engine programs. What would this achieve? All the teams would start going their own directions again. And that's the magical ingredient which has been lost to Formula One. Obviously, old road engines converted into race engines would be notoriously fragile - but that's the point! Engine fragility used to be an integral part of Formula One, it's actually really exciting for the points championship. And the engines would sound great, there would be no need for engine RPM limits.... the engines would explode naturally the higher the teams run their RPM. They're old road engines! I would also ban KERS. It is a hideously expensive cost addition to modern F1 cars. I would kiss goodbye to this ridiculous concept of Formula One constantly "virtue signalling" to the world how green it is. All those jet freighters sending multiple logistics advance teams all over the globe burns more fuel than the race cars by orders of magnitude. I would ban 8 speed semi automatic gearboxes with a gazillion sensors attached - another hideously expensive cost addition. I would mandate old school manual 4 speed boxes. Yes, 4 speed and manual. Most people don't realise this, but missed gear changes previously played a huge role in passing opportunities. The need for a wide rev range is a challenge Formula One needs to embrace again. I would open up the rule book regarding aero design and simply specify a box dimension the cars must fit inside, and after that the teams can do what ever they want. If someone wants to run skirts like Alan Jones in 1980, go for it. If someone wants to run the current high rake floor pans of 2020, again, go for it. In one season we would a plethora of different looking and different sounding F1 cars back on the grid. Cheaper to make too because the teams could go looking for parts to use from wrecker yards and then machining them into modern race parts. Believe it or not, that's actually greener for the planet than what we're doing.

    Ivan JulianIvan Julianमहीने पहले
    • decent

      Iwant AnaivanovicIwant Anaivanovicमहीने पहले
  • F1 technology partly trickled down to the cars that we are driving now. However the future is electric, or a variation on electric. F1 should stay ahead of the curve and switch away from old fashioned carbon fuel based technology to something that is future proof.

    Mike DebruynMike Debruynमहीने पहले
  • Wait Honda make up your mind! Dude Honda left already once before and then came back and then is leaving again... sigh come on guys

    funtimenetworkfuntimenetworkमहीने पहले
  • That means F1 is totally in crisis, despite what they say.

    vbddfy euuytvbddfy euuytमहीने पहले
  • and I thought NASCAR had problems..

    Bill KanneBill Kanneमहीने पहले
  • It's a sign that stupid electric/hybrid or whatever you call these shits, they wont work.

    iare19iare19महीने पहले
  • Red bull in 2018: sorry renault. We are leaving you for someone hotter Redbull in 2020: so.... um.... she dumped me..... but i really wanna be back with u anyway Renault: 🤨

    World TravelerWorld Travelerमहीने पहले
  • They should stick to drink manufacturing!

    Nutella PoptellaNutella Poptellaमहीने पहले
  • Drop this hybrid shit, go back to petrol engines. Often the formula to any stock block.

    rsemrad2 Rsemrad2rsemrad2 Rsemrad2महीने पहले
  • Praying for a Mercedes Red Bull to finally put an end to the Lewis Hamilton automatic win machine. Level the performance of the two cars and Hamilton will be making 2nd and 3rd more often than not against Max!

    Stephen MStephen Mमहीने पहले
  • nail in the Red Bulls F1 coffin’s lid. I hope not :(

    sokin jonsokin jonमहीने पहले
  • People keep talking about verstappen and Red Bull’s volatility because of it...I just wanna know if Red Bull leaves who gets their pit crew 😂😂

    Gunnar WheelerGunnar Wheelerमहीने पहले
  • Why not buy all F1 engine technology, intellectual property and employ its engineers from Honda? However much it costs, in the long term it will be worth it and the legend will continue !

    Yanni SlavYanni Slavमहीने पहले
  • I genuinely think Max is going to become another nearly man. He’s got nowhere to go that can win him a title unless Redbull get the new regs for 2022 right and have a good engine. I can’t see Hamilton leaving Merc and if Bottas goes Russle will end up in that seat.

    Ryan TRyan Tमहीने पहले
  • I really don't understand why people think this is bad for Red Bull or Verstappen. Clearly Honda was never going to be able to beat Mercedes so Verstappen would have been stuck anyway.

    ScorchScorchमहीने पहले
  • Correction: Verstappen’s having his worst season in 2020.

    Dino SDino Sमहीने पहले
  • Rolls Royce?

    asherasherमहीने पहले
  • What does statistics say? Is HONDA a great engine compared to Merc, Ferrari, etc.

    dreamerphelandreamerphelanमहीने पहले
  • He'll go to Brackley in 2022, will continue Merc domination for about another 6 years till the last fan leaves F1 and turns the lights off.

    Nicholas Holmes-SiedleNicholas Holmes-Siedleमहीने पहले
  • There is NO SUCH THING AS CARBON FREE technology. Unless they go back to Wooden wagons with wooden wheels and rims.

    JasonJasonमहीने पहले
  • Just shows what a state the sport is in, 3 engine suppliers on the grid, sad times, and not too rash to start talking about the death of the sport tbh

    Leebo88Leebo88महीने पहले